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  First Request For an Accountin...
April 26, 2012 7:57 AMFrank Ruelas
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April 27, 2012 12:10 PMApril Streeter
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April 27, 2012 12:57 PMFrank Ruelas
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April 30, 2012 12:41 AMMatt Frederiksen
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April 30, 2012 9:04 AMJill Choi
  RE:First Request For an Accoun...
May 01, 2012 7:07 AMNancy Davis
  RE:First Request For an Accoun...
May 01, 2012 11:25 AMFrank Ruelas
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May 02, 2012 7:10 AMNancy Davis
  RE:First Request For an Accoun...
May 02, 2012 12:43 PMDeborah Schle...
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May 02, 2012 3:30 PMSharon Hocket...
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May 03, 2012 6:02 PMDeborah Schle...
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May 02, 2012 5:48 PMFrank Ruelas
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April 30, 2012 1:16 PMFrank Ruelas
 

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First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Frank Ruelas
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: April 26, 2012 7:57 AM
Subject: First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
This message has been cross posted to the following eGroups: HIPAA: Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act Forum and Privacy Officer's Roundtable .
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Yesterday I was informed by the medical records staff of a nearby hospital that....drum roll...the first request for an Accounting of Disclosures (AoD) was received.

The AoD was produced literally in minutes and provided to the patient later that day when the patient came by the hospital and picked it up at the medical records department.

Here's my question....and guesstimates are welcome...on an annual basis, how many requests for an Accounting of Disclosures have you received?

I am interested to see if the annual number of requests continues to be exceptionally low, often in the range of single digits, as is my experience.

Thanks!

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Frank Ruelas
Principal
HIPAA College
Casa GrandeAZ
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: April Streeter
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: April 27, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
It has been a couple of years since I was working with a health system, but during my tenure there (8 years) we never once had a request for an accounting of disclosures.  We faithfully ran the report as scheduled, but we never had to produce it.

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AprilStreeterCHC
Paralegal
Brian Kaser, PLC
LansingMI
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Frank Ruelas
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: April 27, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
To the group...responses like April's below are also representative of the fair amount I have received offline as well.  Looks like numbers are very, very low.

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Frank Ruelas 623 308 1307
Principal
HIPAA College
Casa Grande AZ
frank@hipaacollege.com
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Matt Frederiksen
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: April 30, 2012 12:41 AM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
Frank,
Having worked in compliance and privacy for several years, I believe I've only had one request for an accounting of disclosures maybe once in the last five years.

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MattFrederiksenCHC, CHPC,MBA, BSHA
Chief Compliance Officer
Wyoming Medical Center
CasperWY
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Jill Choi
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: April 30, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:

At Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, we have had only 1 accounting request since 2003.

 

 

 


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JillChoiMBA, RHIA
Dir HIM & Privacy Officer
Nationwide Children's Hospital
ColumbusOH
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Nancy Davis
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 01, 2012 7:07 AM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:

Here is what bothers me about this.  Back when this first came out, covered entities scrambled to try and develop or purchase systems to accommodate these requests in compliance with the Privacy Rule.  I remember sitting a Catholic Health Association meeting roundtable of privacy officers where we all discussed our strategies.  For some it was purchased software packages at considerable expense, for others is was internally created documentation systems in things like Lotus notes or new forms that nurses and providers would have to complete when making a disclosure to public health, law enforcement, etc.  As we all shared essentially how we were going to expend resources to meet this standard, one very WISE privacy officer said he was going to do nothing.........  he was going to wait and see what happened and when he did receive a request, he was going to just abstract the record to determine disclosures.  His rationale:  1) cost of software; 2) cost of implementation resources; 3) concern that asking providers to "double-document" could result in deficit documentation in the actual patient record; 4) provider compliance to completing forms, software; 5) the actual record shoudl be the true source,  etc....  

Boy, was he right.  This was not a value-added standard and I fear that the proposed EHR access report may create many more problems than value to the consumer.  This spring I did my annual high school careers presentation and the facilitating teacher asked me out of curiosity just how many people would potentially  "see" her PHI/record if she came in for a visit.  It was a good question, but one that made me uncomfortable and later when I answered I think many others were uncomfortable.  Appointment clerk, registration clerk, medical assistant, nurse, provider, appointment clerk for return visit, transcriptionist, transcription clerk, coder, biller x 2, etc....   In small communities, these are clearly people that are known to the patient.  The point is that the average patient has no idea how many individuals have reason to interact with their PHI/records and this will be disconcerting to many.
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NancyDavisMS, RHIA
Director of Privacy/Security Officer
Ministry Health Care
Sturgeon BayWI
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Frank Ruelas
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 01, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
Nancy,

My opinion after speaking with folks is that if the final rule on Access Reports remains as is...then the resources needed to compile one of the access reports as compared to what was needed to compile an Accounting of Disclosures is significantly more involved.

...and why would anyone imagine that there will be any different demand from individuals for these types of reports as well?

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Frank Ruelas 623 308 1307
Principal
HIPAA College
Casa GrandeAZ
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Nancy Davis
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 02, 2012 7:10 AM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:

This one I can't predict......  I agree that the resource requirements will be significant.  However, I have many concerns and did participate with AHIMA and my own organization and provided comments to the proposed rule.  This will require an educational component for patients.  I do hope that if it does pass there that it has a carve out for the organization to review and decline.  In some cases where unstable patients are involved, it would seem like a risk to the staff members.  I guess we wil have to wait and see.


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NancyDavisMS, RHIA
Director of Privacy/Security Officer
Ministry Health Care
Sturgeon BayWI
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Deborah Schlesinger
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 02, 2012 12:43 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
From the standpoint of a health plan with legacy systems which could not produce an accountings and disclosures report with the punch of the "easy" button I wonder what has happened to the Accounting and Disclosures proposed rule since comments were submitted. Has anyone else heard anything? 

I heard a podcast yesterday of Susan Mc Andrews talking about the pending publication of the HITECH final regulation.  She hinted that that "further guidance" would be provided on conducting risk assessments and determining which events were reportable.  I get the feeling that the definition of a "breach" will not change. Does anyone else have any opinion?  Thanks

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DeborahSchlesinger
Director Corporate Risk and Insurance
SCAN Group
Long BeachCA
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Sharon Hockett JD
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 02, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
Could you provide a link or way to access Ms. McAndrews' comments?

Thanks

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SharonHockett JD
Auditor
Agate Healthcare
EugeneOR
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Deborah Schlesinger
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 03, 2012 6:02 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:

This is the link to the article and comments by Mc Andrews.

http://www.healthcareinfosecurity.com/articles.php?art_id=4722&rf=2012-05-01-eh&elq=491b2d0fca924f5280cc3bb6fe9562f0&elqCampaignId=3382
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DeborahSchlesinger
Director Corporate Risk and Insurance
SCAN Group
Long BeachCA
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Frank Ruelas
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: May 02, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
Deborah,

I too don't believe the definition of a breach will change.  What I'm curious is whether the harm threshold will remain in the final rules.  That would make a huge difference in how incidents are managed if it is removed.

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Frank Ruelas
Principal
HIPAA College
Casa GrandeAZ
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RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
From: Frank Ruelas
To: Privacy Officer's Roundtable
Posted: April 30, 2012 1:16 PM
Subject: RE:First Request For an Accounting of Disclosures...
Message:
Folks,

On Matt's note I just want to add that it appears the rate of requests for Accounting of Disclosures is very, very low.  Many folks informed me that they have had similar to Matt 0 or 1 request over a period of several years.

This will be interesting to see if the Access Report requirement that was introduced in the previous rules will continue to exist in the final rules because I'm curious if this will raise awareness for folks to request an Access Report as well as possibly bringing more attention to the requests for Accounting of Disclosures.

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FrankRuelas
Principal
HIPAA College
Casa GrandeAZ
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